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» Brian Tubbs - The fourth option

The fourth option is existentialism and it's a non-starter. It's basically just a dressed-up ode to anarchy. However, that seems to be the post-modernist thinking.

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» pink101 - The fourth option

In response to The fourth option posted by BrianTubbs:
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But, existentialism not only allows but it provides encouragement for the development of the self--unless I'm grossly mistaken.
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The idea that a person is in search of their destiny doesn't exclude any of the three options Prado suggests, does it?
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» Brian Tubbs - The fourth option

In response to The fourth option posted by pink101:

Existentialism isn't about a person engaged in an individual search for an objective reality. Existentialism is essentially about self-actualization. There are no moral absolutes. There is no external, objective truth out there to be discovered. Truth isn't something to be discovered at all. It's to be created. That's the promise and premise of existentialism. And the fact that it is seriously entertained as a valid philosophy is scary.

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» pradocg - The fourth option

In response to The fourth option posted by BrianTubbs:
I have to agree with pink101. The Nietzschean and Foucauldian vision of self-creation has nothing to do with a person searching for an objective reality; it has to do with creating oneself, so creating a reality in that sense. And there's no necessary conflict between that and an ethical code having to do with how one treats others.

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» Brian Tubbs - The fourth option

In response to The fourth option posted by pradocg:

The Nietzschean and Foucauldian vision of self-creation has nothing to do with a person searching for an objective reality

That's what I said. In existentialist thought, there are no absolutes. There is no objective reality or truth to be searched for. And that's why existentialism is not good.

Contrary to what existentialists believe...There ARE absolutes. There ARE external, objective realities. There IS such a thing as absolute Truth. It's our job as humans to discover those truths, not create them for ourselves.

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» pradocg - The fourth option

In response to The fourth option posted by BrianTubbs:
Sorry; don't think that's quite right. You said that about existentialism; I was speaking of Nietzsche and Foucault in particular. Their self-creation idea does not entail existentialism.

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» Brian Tubbs - Nietzsche, Foucalt, etc.

In response to The fourth option posted by pradocg:

I haven't read Foucalt, so I'll have to defer to you there. I understand he wrote about power relationships. Nevertheless, I'm not qualified to comment authoritatively on him.

Nietzsche is a pioneer in postmodern thought. I think we can agree on that. He helped usher in postmodernism, which has (unfortunately) overtaken modernism. Postmodernism and existentialism are inextricably linked. I understand that there are technical, academic distinctions, but they are (in the broad sense) intertwined. Once you jettison absolutes and the very concept of objective reality or external truth, you set human beings up to be self-determining agents. Nietzsche understood this and, based on my understanding of his reading, welcomed it.

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» pink101 - Nietzsche, Foucalt, etc.

In response to Nietzsche, Foucalt, etc. posted by BrianTubbs:
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These are deep wathers, Brian.
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Much can be said on every side pro and con.
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Postmodernism seems to be all about taking things apart to see what makes 'em run. That's how we got to figure out such things as the genetic code.
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"The times they are a changing."
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Think how we've changed from our grand fathers and how they must have changed from theirs.
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» Brian Tubbs - Somehow..

In response to Nietzsche, Foucalt, etc. posted by pink101:

...I tend to drift into deep waters. I find myself going there over-and-over. You'd think I'd learn, especially since I can't swim.

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» jesika15 - liars who have no conscience

This article brings up some serious points about being untruthful, I have major issues with liars. People who make up stories and lie to hurt someone else. I don't understand how they can do this, they must not have a conscience.. I know this person in particular who is a habitual liar and makes stuff up constantly and her lies are believed because she is such a "victim"..I personally feel she is a good actress.. and knows the game, but as your article said when people hurt other people with lies, they are going against God and everyone has to account for their actions,someday maybe they will realize this is totally wrong. Hopefully, before they have to answer to God for everything they have done in life.

-- posted by jesika15

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